There are certain types of crashes where your seat belt isn’t going to help much, which is why it’s so important to always pay attention to stop signs and stop lights.

Take this incident for example, where the driver of a Jeep Cherokee failed to stop when she should have and this resulted in a very serious crash. What’s scary is that she appears to have broken her side window with either her head or her elbow. Hopefully it was the latter.

So far it looks pretty straight forward, right? Ran the stop sign, caused a crash, take your fine and go home type of deal. Well, not so fast. The description of the video offers only limited info, such as the location of the crash (Lower Queen Anne, Seattle), plus the fact that the cammer is still waiting on his insurance company to decide what to do about the car.

However, on Reddit, somebody posted the following message after the clip:

“According to her statement to her insurance: She came to a complete stop, looked both ways, and only proceeded when it was safe to do so, at which point I came out of nowhere and hit her at a high rate of speed. (Speed limit on this street is 25 mph).”

If that’s indeed what happened, we can only shake our heads in disbelief that somebody would have the audacity to lie in such an easily disprovable way.

Also watch: Stop Sign Violator Spooks Driver Into Crashing, Attempts To Flee The Scene

It’s also possible that she was too shaken up to remember what happened, but to not remember is one thing, and to specifically detail how you actually stopped at the sign when in fact you didn’t, is a completely different type of matter.